home *** CD-ROM | disk | FTP | other *** search
- Path: polarnet.com!floyd
- From: floyd@polarnet.com (Floyd Davidson)
- Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems,comp.dcom.telecom.tech
- Subject: Re: Making a RJ11 "busy" plug
- Date: 28 Mar 1996 09:11:48 GMT
- Organization: __________
- Message-ID: <4jdl4k$ajs@news2.cais.com>
- References: <4i4n3j$dgr@baloo.pipex-sa.net> <4j20vk$b4i@news02.deltanet.com> <3156E390.398B@interserv.com> <Pine.SUN.3.91.960327140850.12786A-100000@crl11.crl.com>
- Reply-To: floyd@tanana.polarnet.com
- NNTP-Posting-Host: tanana.polarnet.com
-
- lreeves@crl11.crl.com wrote:
- >Central office switches use a current source to feed the
- >loop current. This current source is defined by the
- >following equivalent circuit:
- >
- >
- > ----------------------/\/\/\-------------/\/\/\---------|
- > | 400 Ohm Loop Resistance |
- > | Battery Feed Resistor 25 Ohm min \
- > | 1300 Ohm max / Telephone
- > ------ 48 Volt DC \ Set
- > -- Constant Voltage /
- > | Source \
- > | |
- > | |
- > ---------------------------------------------------------
- >
-
- The "48 Volt DC Constant Voltage Source" invariably will be 52 VDC,
- (and when not invariable, it can be as high as 56 VDC and as low as
- 46 VDC).
-
- >The telephone set has a nominal resistance of about 200 Ohms.
- >However, it must be current limited to a maximum current of 90 mA.
- >It also must be able to work with loop currents as low as 23 mA.
-
- An off hook condition is defined as 20 ma in the US. The
- difference is interesting (and contributes to reliable operation).
-
- >Since a modern switch is built with a *current* source, it
- >can detect excessive loop current and turn the loop down or
- >generate a trouble message for shorted loops.
-
- Not necessarily true. It could detect excessive current, but in
- fact I know of not one that does. What they do is detect the
- difference between 20 ma, more or less. That is, specifically
- they detect on/off hook. I am most familiar with Nortel switching
- units and a huge variety of FX Station cards for Channel Banks
- (Though I worked on a real live Stroeger 50B for a couple years
- once upon a time!), and have never heard of a switch that does in
- fact detect "excessive loop current". Actually I've never seen a
- switch that can even deliver excessive loop current, but...
-
- What is generated however, is a "Permanent Signal" alarm. That is
- old terminology used with mechanical switching systems, and for
- any given type of common control switch it might have a different
- name for whatever type of report is generated. A PS alarm means
- the line has been off hook with no normal action (such as dialing)
- having taken place within a preset time limit.
-
- An individual Permanent Signal alarm is universally ignored other
- than for the automatic intercept-announcement / howler / out-of-
- service routine we have all experienced with phones left off hook
- for too long. As a group they might well be counted for stats.
- No manual intervention is normally initiated due to an individual
- PS alarm (because doing so would double the labor cost of a telco!).
-
- >Ohms law tells you that the set's resistance can be between 350 ohms
- >for a short loop, and about 50 ohms for a long loop. If you are
- >on a short loop, and you exceed 90 mA, the current source in the switch
- >can get very upset. The specification for telephone instruments,
- >EIA/TIA-470-A, states that the instrument must limit current at 90 mA.
-
- I do not have access to a copy of the EIA specs. I have heard
- from others that it says that 240 ohms is the maximum resistance
- guaranteed to cause an off hook condition (i.e., to allow 20 ma of
- current). What I would like to know is exactly what it states in
- regard to current limiting. Telephone sets have traditionally not
- had the ability to limit current in the loop, but have always had
- the ability to limit current through the set. That limitation
- used to be provided by a varister across the line which would
- limit the voltage appearing across the teleset.
-
- >If you are on a short loop, and you use a short circuit to make your
- >"busy" plug, you could exceed this current. In my experience I have
- >never had any problem using a "short", but I have never been
- >that close to the switch either.
-
- I've never had a problem either, and I've never been far from the
- switch.
-
- >If you use a 100 Ohm resistor, it should be rated at one-watt.
-
- That 100 ohm resistor, using the 90 ma loop current figure, could
- be called upon to actually dissipate .81 watts, and therefore should
- have a rating for at least 2-4 times that value. For example, at
- the same current it will dissipate twice the heat that the 47 ohm
- resistor mentioned in the following paragraph would, but that
- resistor has twice the rating! To be just as conservative, a 4
- watt 100 ohm resistor should be used.
-
- >Older modems without a solid-state current-sink generally
- >used a 47 Ohm, 2 Watt resistor in their DAA. Newer modems
- >have a transistor current-sink set at 25-35 mA.
- >
- >Some cheap PBX's apparently under-size power rating of
- >the current sink in their trunk cards. Mike Sandman devotes two
- >full pages in his catalog to loop current limiting devices.
- >He wouldn't be selling these things if people weren't toasting
- >their trunk cards.
-
- One definite caveat in heeding all of us old telephone types, is
- we work on top quality equipment and rely on it. Consumer quality
- key systems and small PBX's may not have that quality. While I
- will stand by the "use a shorting plug" 100% when it comes to how
- to treat the telco's lines, I am not not willing to go that far if
- you own a small PBX or key system. (I also would highly recommend
- avoiding any system that can't handle a shorted loop, right at the
- card, for a year or two without damage...)
-
- Otherwise, I'll just repeat that any telco tech seen using a
- resistor of any size or power rating to cause an off hook would
- be chastized.
-
- Floyd
- --
- Floyd L. Davidson Salcha, Alaska floyd@tanana.polarnet.com
-